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Wednesday, November 03, 2004
America The Beautiful
Thank you, America, for re-electing George W. Bush! Thanks for making your voice heard, unambiguously (if not overwhelmingly). Here's what your vote accomplished, and I'm truly grateful...
- You made "Moral values" a priority, even above your self-interest. I commend you.
- You rightly validated Bush's job performance.
- You sent a message to our troops: we're with you, with the same resolve and purpose as before.
- You sent a message to activist judges legislating from the bench: we, the people decide the laws.
- You sent a message to Vietnam Veterans who have felt betrayed and smeared: We hear you. You have forced America to reexamine what we were told about Vietnam, how we were lied to, dealing another serious blow to deceptions the hard left takes for granted.
- You sent a message to terrorists: We won't waver in the war you started. We won't lose our resolve.
- You sent a message to our friends and allies: Thanks for standing with us. We won't lose our resolve. You're not the "coalition of the coerced and bribed" (as Kerry claimed).
- You sent a message to the people of Iraq: We stand with you now as ever in your struggle for self-determination.
- You sent a message to Saddam loyalists: give up, pursue a peaceful life. Forget your bloody ambitions and take part in your future, not your self-destruction.
- You sent a message to America's unscrupulous leftist fringe: Michael Moore, Eminem, the BusHitler crowd, etc. We don't buy the falsehoods, demagoguery & hysteria you're pushing, even if you believe it yourself. (That's self-delusion.) And getting angrier, more shrill, or more hateful doesn't help. You need a change of heart.
- You sent a message to Hollywood's self-important, self-absorbed, out-of-touch, hedonistic liberals (Rob Reiner, George Clooney, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, P. Ditty, ...): You really are out of touch. But if you didn't get the message after endorsing Howard Dean, why would you get it now?
- You sent a message to the worlds leftists, trying to meddle in our elections: Sorry, we don't take too well to that. That goes for UN meddling, too.
- You sent a message to the UN's staff & members bought by Saddam: we still won't tolerate your corruption.
- You sent a message to CBS News and The New York Times, who would rather defeat George Bush than publish the truth: You've worked hard to torpedo your own credibility. We've noticed. So be it. (ABC isn't far behind.)
- You sent a message to future candidates who make blatantly false claims, and the MSM who ignores it: Your credibility really does take a blow.
- You sent a message to the Richard Clarkes and (Former Ambassador) Joseph Wilsons of the world, who deliberately mislead to turn public opinion: Enjoy the New York Times' doting and the book deals from Simon & Schuster, but we've investigated your claims and they're bogus. False claims won't sway us.
- You sent a message to George Soros: you can't buy us.
- You even sent a message to the economy: Carry on.
Thank you again, America. (Thanks, too, for the messages you sent to the Senate and House of Representatives.)
(Please keep in mind that each commenter's opinions are only his/her own.)
nydailynews:Bush was not asked about, nor did he mention, the hunt for terror lord Osama Bin Laden.
"Red, white and brainwashed?" How does one go about disputing that? After all, you said so. ;-)
Your argument, by the way, has been heavy on accusations but light on facts. Vague references to evil, brainwashing, and gigantic holes (pun intended) don't constitute a rational argument. Which, by the way, is the essence of your camp's failure to persuade.
The one thing you most need to contemplate is the one thing you can't bring yourself to: that thoughtful, intelligent people actually voted FOR Bush.
Really? Because state IQ testing would suggest a different theory about intelligence...the top states being supporters of Kerry and the bottom 20 being strong Bush backers. Most who voted for Bush graduated from high school if even that. That's educated in your mind? A lot of women voted for who their husband told them to vote for. That's an educated vote? A lot of kids vote for who their parents tell them to vote for. That's educated? Most people who voted for Bush were white, religious, and older than 30. Far more men than women voted for Bush and yet far more women attend post-secondary education than men these days. That's the educated vote you refer to? Most of Bush's supporters in the exit polls put "Moral Obligation" as their #1 reason for Bush and yet failed to rank "cares about people" (that just happened to be one of the lowest reasons that Bush was their man). Now, please explain to me how moral obligation isn't connected with an importance of caring for others?
Those are all pure facts, not accusations so the next time that you claim that intelligent people voted for Bush - earn a better score on your intelligence tests to back that up. And the next time you claim that thoughtful people voted for Bush, think about all the Jewish people who believe that abortion is "just" when a mother's life is in danger...so just in fact, that they are told to pull that baby apart limb by limb if they must in order to save the woman's life. That's their belief system, and under Bush - they don't have much of a right to exercise that belief anymore, do they? Think about the fact that Jews don't consider a fetus a living being, but only a potential life. Under Bush, are they being thought of?
Think about all the women who were raped, or all the non-religious people who feel that abortion is a women's choice and not an issue for the government to dictate. Think about how those people don't have a say because Christianity apparently runs the law system in America now. Mind you, the bible doesn't mention abortion anyway - that's just man's misinterpretations and now it's going to be law because it's what Bush believes...you're right, that's so thoughtful of Bush supporters.
Moreover, you're one to talk when your arguments are ONLY accusations with no facts what so ever to back them up. You claim all these messages were sent to all these different groups of people and yet these groups are still going to fight and hold the president accountable...I don't know what messages you think were loud and clear. The world got a loud and clear message that 59 million Americans are really as stupid as we thought, but that's about the only message that really made a good point. So bravo, you got your message across.
* State IQ's.
* Spouses, kids voting the way their husbands/parents tell them to.
* "Cares about people" as an exit poll question.
To refute your "intelligent people voted for Kerry" claim, here one set of facts that clearly debunk it, with associated links. (You know what a link is, don't you? Because you haven't provided a single one, even to bogus data.)
* The District of Columbia has one of the highest high school drop-out rates in the nation.
* The District of Columbia voted 90% for Kerry.
* State IQ's.
* "Cares about people" as an exit poll question."
Disregarding your District of Columbia links (because D.C. first of all isn't a STATE!!!! I was talking about STATE IQ's! Nice try though....D.C. would be ranked along with a state, wouldn't they...
Here's your IQ results in the 2000 election between Bush & Gore:
And for a more recent 2004-2005 results thanks to Morgan Quitno Press - state and city ranking publications - here are your Countries Top 10 "smart" states:
Ranking based on IQ:
4 New Jersey
6 New York
9 Pennsylvania - NOTE FIRST THE TOP 9 STATES VOTED KERRY
10 Montana - Thank God for this state cause it was beginning to look a little grim for the red states.
11 Maine - added 11 in cause we're back to blue states ye again.
And here's your exit poll results found at CNN.COM:
MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE
Taxes 57% 43%
Education 26% 73%
Iraq 26% 73%
Terrorism 86% 14%
Economy/Jobs 18% 80%
Moral Values 80% 18%
One would think that with Moral values being such a huge issue that the following results would be a tad different considering moral obligation and care for people should go hand in hand...
MOST IMPORTANT QUALITY
Cares About People 24% 75%
Religious Faith 91% 8%
Intelligent 9% 91%
Will bring change 5% 95%
It appears that the person with the best morals didn't win, doesn't it? After all the Golden rule is Do unto Other - not do unto rich christians republicans.
There's the facts for you as requested.
But, alas, not everyone agrees with your IQ theory.CNN further debunks election folklore you've bought into.
And since Christians consider caring about people as a necessary part of religious faith, that renders the "most important quality" and your associated judgement moot. (And the "Intelligent" 9/91 split must be perceived intelligence.)
I commend your strong sense of morality. But you would do well to sort out your morality from your Marxist-influenced bigotry (against "rich christians republicans").
On the other hand my source is an actual company whose purpose is to publish accurate IQ results based on cities and states.
and there's nothing in your CNN link that discusses IQ so I'm not sure what your point is there...
>Honsey3: "Marxist and bigot don't go together."
How about "leftist-influenced bigotry"? False attacking caricatures against any demographic is bigotry (particularly when unsubstantiated). When the demographic is "rich christians republicans," that's leftist-inspired.
>Honsey3: "I doubt http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQstates.htm really a legit website...an unprofessional, thrown together by an average person site..."
That's one way to avoid its content. (That's also called ad hominem.)
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