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Saturday, July 09, 2005
He's been taking heat over the documentary he's doing on the Finsbury Park Mosque, in light of the terrorist attacks on London. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but those attacks sure look like the work of al-Qaeda. If it turns out that the folks he's been filming had something to do with it, he has a lot of re-thinking to do. And if they don't, he's vindicated (at least in that one realm).
Here's some random quotes from his own blog, to give you a sense of what he's about.
To his credit...
- "Everyone should have their say. I see no reason to twist words."
- As you can probably tell, I hate left and right wing politics..."
- "It was no doubt true that [Abu Hamza] had considerably revised what he was saying, and the manner in which he said it outside the mosque from what he had said inside."
- "'So why did [George Galloway] say to Saddam Hussein 'I salute your indefatigability?' I asked. No one answered."
- " Sometimes it’s been comical, I've been trying to find the funny side, but then something like the Madrid bombing happens which makes me question everything I am doing. Now alleged terrorists have been arrested in Britain."
- "This was my first experience of leftist political meetings. ... I thought that without the drug of actual power these guys would at least be able to say, 'I don't know.'"
- [Quotes Abu Hamza:] 'If a kaffir (godless person) is caught in a Moslem land and you can’t sell him as a slave in the market place then you kill him.'
- " In the same way, to depict all US soldiers or republicans as evil wouldn't be the whole picture either. Looking through blogsville you can find soldiers who genuinely want to free Iraq from Saddam and give its people back a stabble country."
- "In the following months [after Saddam's statue fell] I spent much more time online talking to people I disagreed with that those I agreed with. How the f*** else can any progress be made? This is why we at socialistwanker link to people like conservative punk. I f***ing hate Bush, but thanks to "my political enemies" I read this and challenge my own perspective."
- I see shreds of decency and rational thought. (I attribute it to a little Christian influence.)
- "Politically I am a jester. All "sides" seem to dislike me. I have deliberately put myself in this position and I don't know why."
What I have a problem with...
- "I just had the feeling that if he was who the Sun said he was, someone more sinister than Mr. Abdullah would be standing next to him."
- "The Sun want the [Guantanamo] guys to be terrorists. The Independent and people like myself want them to be innocent and everyone writes accordingly."
- 'Al-Quaida as an organised terorist network simply does not exist.' ... and what Hajj (One of Abu Hamza's friends) said to me on camera: 'No Muslim would set a bomb in this country unless he was a nutter.'
- I wish you could meet [Guantanamo detainee] Martin Mubanga. He comes across like your average quietly spoken British person...
- Waaaaay too many drugs, mate. They're rotting your brain. Keep trying to kick it.
(Please keep in mind that each commenter's opinions are only his/her own.)
I am quite pleased with the flack really (but don't tell anyone)
to address your points of concern:
The first point is true. Everyone at the mosque came across like naiive conspiracy theorists, and as you know, conspiracy theoriests are rarely terrorists. I am struggling at the moment to get some video up on socialistwanker.
I have no opinion on the conspiracy theories they believe in, I have no problem presenting them. Holocaust revisionism,Mossad involvement in 9/11- I dont think any of this will suprise anyone.
Its true. Meeting them, I cannot believe that these are the guys associated with all this press coverage.They come across like a devout church group.I want to make this film so as people can judge for themselves.
I have pitched a meeting between 3 christian republican women and ALL of them to BBC and Channel 4 but havent heard back from either yet.
(Rightwingsparkle and friends)
"The Sun want the [Guantanamo] guys to be terrorists. The Independent and people like myself want them to be innocent and everyone writes accordingly."
I am just saying that I am aware of bias in the human condition, that what we expect makes a huge difference to what we get. The sun went looking for one thing, I went looking for the opposite. If I hadn't found it I would have left.
It was a CONSIDERABLE struggle. I haven't had any sinister people feeding me stuff. They are so paranoid and difficult to work with it is untrue.
Hajj is my favourite Muslim, he stood on the other side of Hamza from Abdullah the whole time. He is so mellow it is untrue. He gets in trouble with the others cos he doesn't mind hanging around with tokers (though he dosn't toke himself.)
He said his opinion. He thinks a Muslim is someone who prays 5 times a day, and that the killing of innocents is haram.
and I do want you to meet Martin Mubanga. If someone takes my doc, rightwing sparkle is going to.
And you know what I think of Martin Mubanga.
And I think that "The Power of Nightmares" (best I could read about it--I haven't seen it) is Michael Mooreish bunkum. A straw man. I wonder if people are reconsidering it after the London attacks.
Martin Mubanga is a surprisingly accomplished rapper for someone who is meant to be a foaming Islamist militant, and he even performed with those kuffar the Unpeople. This is in stark contrast to my own (extensive) experience of Islamists in Taliban country (it's a long story, Dave will tell you all about it).
The statement "Al-Qaeda does not exist as an organised terrorist network" is a fair enough description of the organisation's structure... Please can I refer you to just the first few paragraphs of this Sunday Times report I contributed to (US 'publican friends: this is a right-wing Murdoch paper)... If you want to find my Real Name (tm) you will have to scroll right down to the bottom of page 3, though... Don't tell any of my straight journalism friends about my blog, okay??
God save the Queen...
[gin & tonics raised all round, glasses clink...]
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
I read your Sunday Times article, and agree with it. Al-Qaida's "hollow corporation" still gives it the ability to carry out horrific evil, as we've seen. I don't see anyone on either side disputing that. (Which is the straw man of the Power of Nightmares.)
We must take lessons from Hamas and the PLO, too. The analysts are right that terrorism thrives where it's given safe haven. Al-Qaida was given safe haven in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"... the Power of Nightmares explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion." How much more "hidden" and "organized" did the London bombers need to be?
"Should we be worried about the threat from organised terrorism or is it simply a phantom menace being used to stop society from falling apart?" Tell the victims families that the menace was really a phantom, an illusion, and they needn't "worry."
I went to Finsbury park to check and put up some sketches of the real people I found surrounding hamza here and here it is all subective and open to debate isn't it?
Abu Abdullah has actually read this thread (he reads my blog about twice a year!)and was a bit ngry about me desribing him as such.
Cheers for pointing that link out-
I just watched no1 again and was wodering what you make of it?
Its almost as much psy-ops as the concepts it talks about, waring for world dominance.
Its like basic philosophy.
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